[17:41] Buteo Ruttan: hi, wassup?
[17:48] Hour Destiny: Hello. Playing Anarchy Online, actually. It’s a sci-fi MMOG.
[17:49] Hour Destiny: Been working on a wiki and live chat on the website.
[17:51] Buteo Ruttan: is there a new website?
[17:52] Hour Destiny: http://www.spacedestiny.org
[17:52] Hour Destiny: The wiki is /wiki and the live chat is /help
[17:57] Buteo Ruttan: nice! not complaining, but wondering when it moved? don’t recall being told about the change directly. not a prob, just wondering…
[17:58] Hour Destiny: It was the hosting that moved.
[17:59] Hour Destiny: Anderson Urqhart, the head of the NASA CoLab Welcome Team and my Vice-President, runs a hosting and web design company, and is giving us free hosting.
[17:59] Hour Destiny: There should have been a group notice about it.
[18:00] Hour Destiny: And one of my brothers is donating the use of a Windows 2008 Server computer that he has.
[18:04] Buteo Ruttan: request: please put meeting dates/times in the group notice message body, not just the attachment. when i’m not in SL, my IM goes to email, that way i don’t have to log into SL just to get the date. great news on all of the donated support!
[18:04] Hour Destiny: I try to have the date and time in the subject. 
[18:05] Hour Destiny: I wonder how I’m going to forecast a 3 year budget.
[18:05] Buteo Ruttan: ok; can u also ask colab to do the same, if appropriate?
[18:05] Hour Destiny: I’ll mention it to Be.
[18:05] Buteo Ruttan: budget, stnd by
[18:06] Buteo Ruttan: well, i would start by making draft goals for yrs 1, 2, 3
[18:07] Buteo Ruttan: then, figure out what funds you need to make that happen
[18:09] Hour Destiny: That, I think I could do, at least roughly. Income is a whole another ballpark.
[18:12] Buteo Ruttan: income…. must talk latr. start with: min required, good to have, forget frills; pick a start $ for inc the a conservative approach is to increase it by 10%/yr
[18:14] Hour Destiny: There’s also wages.
[18:14] Hour Destiny: I’ll just take it one piece at a time.
[18:15] Buteo Ruttan: good plan. do u have funding for wages? we don’t yet
[18:17] Hour Destiny: Nope.
[18:17] Hour Destiny: My impression is that we won’t have much success till we are 501(c)(3).
[18:22] Buteo Ruttan: yes, i agree, that’s when you can really raise $, but you could seek large donations now, they would be tax deductable pending yourr 501c3 approval
[18:23] Hour Destiny: For us, yes. Would they be deductable for the donor?
[18:24] Buteo Ruttan: yes, unless you fail to qualify for state and fed nonprofit status
[18:24] Hour Destiny: We have state already.
[18:26] Buteo Ruttan: q: would u be comfortable continuing this dialog on a blog somewhere, ours our yours? i’m happy to host the discussion on one of the Ophoenix blogs if ok with you. would be nice to have a log of these exchanges, to refer back to…
[18:27] Hour Destiny: Sure. I figure it will help many future nonprofits get started.
[18:29] Hour Destiny: As it pertains directly to Space Destiny now, wouldn’t it be better to have the dialog on Space Destiny’s blog?
[18:31] Buteo Ruttan: sure, do i need an account there?
[18:31] Hour Destiny: You can Register and I’ll promote you.
[18:33] Buteo Ruttan: link to blog is on main web page?
[18:35] Buteo Ruttan: never mind; i’m at the blog site:)
[18:36] Hour Destiny:
[18:41] Buteo Ruttan: just reg’d as dwarfplanet…
[18:43] Hour Destiny: Promoted to Author.
[18:44] Buteo Ruttan: tnx; gotta go eat dinner, tlk to u latr. u ok if i post this msg log to the blog?
[18:45] Hour Destiny: Go ahead.